great british railways livery

I suspect not many. Finsbury Park. Consisting of three shades of grey and thus known as "triple grey Railfreight", the livery included logos on the sides and cabs of locomotives indicating which sector they belonged to. [7], GBR will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow and the Rail Alphabet 2 typeface for branding. But then every time I look at a train, I'll think of a bus. 1948 -. Due to the consequent muddle of liveries, many trains began to get an untidy if not tatty appearance which added to the run-down image of the railway. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. [4] One locomotive, Class 47 No.D1733, was painted to match the coaching stock. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. Japan had JNR (Japan National Railways) and now, post nationalisation, it has JR (Japan Railways). Every TfW station I've been to are still ATW-branded (in fact, Hereford yesterday). One of the worst liveries they ever carried, never seen a HST look so poor. And Great Britain is more often than not used to mean the whole of England/Scotland/Wales, excluding Northern Ireland - a legacy of the Kingdom of Great Britain, which existed from 1707 to 1800. One hallmark of the Governments approach to the constitutional struggle to hold the United Kingdom together has been a recognition that pro-Union policy is not simply a matter for a single department: it needs to run throughout the business of the State. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago, Not at all. The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. Livery Guide Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. Clean, modern, easy to read, looks good and in the right colour set. We badly need that on the visual mess that is the railway. Class 35 'Hymek' D7017 restored to 1960's green & lime livery. Something timeless. Swiss style would be nice, British society & culture wouldn't allow this as we for example don't have direct democracy as in Switzerland this is a very good example of how it can work, credit to Dispatcher on the Stour on Twitter. The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. The white paper does not specify whether the branding of devolved railways such as London Overground and Merseyrail will be affected.[7]. I'll give you an opportunity to make up a better more modern scheme then. But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. [6], The Vale of Rheidol Railway remained steam operated past the general end of steam traction in 1968; Accordingly the three remaining Vale of Rheidol Railway steam locomotives (Class 98) received the Rail Blue colour scheme and the double arrow logo on their side tanks. Home Forums "Great" means "large", not "very good". This included many of the features which were later incorporated in the Mark 2, and trialled in an experimental train designated XP64. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. The Overground operates under its own livery. We need more national institutions to give a British shape to life, and GBR should be one of them. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The attachments illustrate this. In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. [7], Under Network Rail, all stations are formally in public hands since 2014, but only 20 (mainly large termini and central stations) are managed directly by it. "Image of No.47163 with Silver Jubilee Union Jack", History of Blood and Custard (Crimson Lake & Cream) Livery, Information on Freight Locomotive Liveries & logos, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_corporate_liveries&oldid=1136093401, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2014, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. Its rolling stock initially carried the standard Rail Blue (or blue and grey) livery but in 1992, it introduced a new livery of red and grey, with pale blue and grey flashes. I never knew I had OCD until that remark lol. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. Thats a bit like saying everything has been invented, no need for anything more. The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. [7]. The first and second MKC signs are pretty classy and look good. It is not necessary to have it on platform signs as if you don't know you are on the railway when you see them there probably isn't much hope for you. More middle days; they were improving quite a bit in the 1990s. European paint code RAL5020 ("Ocean Blue") is a good match to Rail Blue. The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. RM 2A03J14 - Sittingbourne, Kent, UK. In 1957 this changed to maroon with yellow markings and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering was adopted. Quick reference Livery Guide for Nameplates and transfers available in 4mm/00 scale. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. The first Class 31 entered service in November . [8] The review had been launched in September 2018 and was led by Keith Williams. Why? The livery was applied only to some Class 309 "Clacton" units on the former Eastern Region and to a few of Classes 411 (4Cep), 419 (MLV) and 421 (4Cig) on the former Southern Region. I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. Do you think we should use different colours for regions like we sort of have now, https://twitter.com/_doublearrow/status/1455113527954493474/photo/1. Question for the designers. The 1948 trials brought LMS Class 5s, and GWR Kings and Castles in lined light green and lined blue, with incorrect suggestions that two different blues were used. There is surely a case at least for putting the cross-border inter-city services in national colours (perhaps an updated take on Network SouthEast), to match the saltires splashed all over Scotrail trains. Until the introduction of Mk1 catering vehicles in the late '50s, these trains had matching former GWR catering vehicles. In 1986 the British Railways Board divided its operations into a number of sectors (sectorisation).The sector responsible for long-distance express trains assumed the brand-name . Northern and TPE split into separate Northwest and Northeast brands. The purpose of this call for evidence was to develop an understanding of how much of the current and future market demand for freight could be met by rail, and the role rail can play in the nations supply chains. Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. A throwback to the 70s and 80s can sometimes work, but not often, but I think. This includes transport, with the first Union Connectivity Review being published earlier this year. The double arrow is still overused, though. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. The British Rail Class 31 diesel locomotives, also known as the Brush Type 2 and previously as Class 30, were built by Brush Traction from 1957-62. For this new venture a new livery - a paler shade of blue than Rail Blue, with three stripes of white, red and grey - was created with Class 47 No.47573 The London Standard painted in the new livery specifically for the launch ceremony. Aren't best impressions the ones that did the 2015 Virgin East Coast HST? It's good work (and the previous set). Feb 1, 2020. As built it was a sort of purplish-red stripe with a lighter red shadow, then this changed to solid red in the late 90s/early 2000s. This error in colour identification comes from an article and question published in a Model Railway Magazine in the 1950s, where the responding editor made the error, and it has frequently been repeated since then. Of course it's possible to do better, but I'd argue there are bigger priorities as long as the signage is fit for purpose. Cross Country merged with EMT to form a brand called Midland Connect. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? You also get a more legible and cohesive transport system. The name is still awful though and far too long. British Railways was formed in 1948, it was divided into geographical regions loosely based on the pre-war Big Four company areas, Scotland became a region on its own and the former LNER area was divided into North Eastern and Eastern Regions. The red stripe does work, very similar to what the Welsh are doing. Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that's really a no-brainer frankly. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. They were repainted into blue/grey in the early 1970s. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked . It may not display this or other websites correctly. Infrastructure, passenger, and freight services were separated at that time. I think there would be huge advantages of a standard livery and branding across the Britain, in saving money and presenting a unified product to the customer. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. The 25 kV electric locomotives were painted from new in a striking shade of bright blue which was known as "Electric Blue". Brunswick Green. The concession contract system will be the long-term replacement for the previous system of passenger rail franchising run by the Department for Transport, which became unsustainable early in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic. [4] Normal passenger service franchise mechanisms were amended, transferring almost all revenue and cost risk to the government, effectively 'renationalising' those services temporarily. Introduced in 1965, and also known as "Monastral Blue", the colour was defined by British Rail standards BR28/6001 (Airless spray finish) and BR28/5321 (Brush finish). On the face of it, this is primarily a reorganisation of the franchise system in England control over passenger franchises in Scotland and Wales is, alas, devolved. I'd go along with that from a "looks right" perspective, but it would be almost impossible to see from (for instance) inside a train in darkness. GBR is similar enough to channel some continuity with BR but distinct enough to admit it's a different entity. Budgets and delivery will be held at the local level as well as at the national level. Then theres the question of livery. Correct. It looks like BR. Also on the Eastern Region, Class 55 Deltic locomotives based at Finsbury Park acquired white surrounds to their cab windows. JavaScript is disabled. Famous in York and up and down the East Coast Main Line, LNER could soon be consigned to history - again, YorkMix understands. A corporate livery was created for major express services in Scotland, which effectively consisted of the InterCity livery with the red stripe replaced by a light blue one. The great livery might only look good on certain trains, while on others it looks rubbish. Thanks. Because for my money blue & grey is not the "same basic livery" as Swallow, neither is NSEs toothpaste anything like the red and cream worn in the 50s. I do also like the theory that these regions they mention will be named after old railway companies. It isnt hard to believe that there may be some truth to the suggestion that Johnson would be less cavalier in his treatment of Ulster if it returned even a handful of Government MPs. I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). Because it was a nationalised industry run by the British Government. For example, GWRs London to Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff, Oxford etc might be wrapped up with a GBR Express or GBR Intercity, but the GWR commuter/regional services under a different brand name. Non-corridor coaching stock and other multiple units received all-over Rail Blue until about 1980, when most received the same blue/grey livery as corridor coaching stock. British Railways (BR), which from 1965 traded as British Rail, was a state-owned company that operated most of the overground rail transport in Great Britain from 1948 to 1997. Because it's not going to be the same as BR. [11][12], The location for GBR's headquarters is currently being determined. BRs own history says otherwise. the report stated that there would be some update to the double arrow, though not what that update would be. The United Kingdom is defined clearly on the passport .. the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. On the other hand Avanti's branding is awful - there is no "Italian flair" in it at all. The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. If they're bothered about 'red white and blue" then just stick the double arrow in a white background and give it a blue border. Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Heh. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked? This was later modified for locomotives allocated to the Civil Engineer's department to include a yellow stripe on the upper bodyside, the resulting livery being known as "Dutch" due to its similarity to the corporate colours of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen.[18]. But Beatties second charge is more interesting. Great British Railways marks a new era in the history of our railways. The rail system is no more a public service than coach companies or supermarkets. I reckon a simple logo like the one youve depicted will be what we see. The British Isles is a the collection of European islands consisting of Great Britain, the island of Ireland, Isle of Man and the northern islands that are part of Scotland. Great Northern split, with the Moorgate services becoming part of the London Overground brand and the Kings Lynn route becoming part of the LNER brand. It would appear that were going to be waiting a while even for the new logo, and that given the recent nature of the franchise liveries, that new liveries are a very long way off. At the moment, the TOC mostly differentiates this. JavaScript is disabled. It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britain's strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. I'm not aware - what are TfW doing? On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. (60163 still carries this livery in 2018) Black. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. It will also control the contracting of passenger train services, the setting of fares and timetables, and the collection of fare revenue, with the exception of services wholly within Scotland and Wales. Standing on the sidelines of national politics and shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now. Agree, having at least 'intercity', 'regional' and 'metro' would be good. Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. Launched as the London & South East Sector "Express Livery" this was a short-lived scheme which appeared on a limited amount of units and routes before the advent of Network SouthEast's "toothpaste" red white and blue striped livery. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. Much closer to what I was meaning (thanks. The distinctive angular shape of the HST power cars did not lend itself to applying yellow on the leading face, so the yellow was wrapped around and extended along the side of each power car, although the coaches retained the usual Rail Blue coaching stock livery. Dedicated station management teams will be created within regional divisions of GBR to manage stations and land. I would rather that operations were branded similar to how they are now, but with a few changes compared with the existing TOC areas as follows: Chiltern Railways renamed as Chiltern & Oxbridge, with brand used on all planned EWR services in addition to those from London Marylebone. 1 Pre-corporate liveries 2 Early liveries 2.1 Coaching stock from 1948 2.2 The second phase 2.3 XP64 3 Rail Blue 3.1 Locomotives 3.2 Coaches and multiple units 3.3 Local variations 4 Moving away from Rail Blue 5 Sectorisation 5.1 InterCity 5.2 Network SouthEast 5.3 Regional Railways 5.4 Rail Express Systems 5.5 Railfreight Pre-corporate liveries For me, it's time to sign off from the Great Western Railway Line. Clearly "Great British Railways" does include a bit of "retro" in the manner than gWr does, for example. [18] GBR will own all infrastructure in Scotland and Wales that Network Rail owns now. Although from the mid-1960s to the 1980s the organisation was associated with "Rail Blue", a number of other schemes were also used, especially when it was split into operating units or "sectors" in the mid-1980s. It might have the operator identified in a small way too. The British Railway official livery for meat & fish vans (and other stock which normally travelled in passenger trains) was originally crimson with yellow lettering. No.47373 in revised Railfreight "red stripe" livery. One thing that might work, though, would be to drop the full text from the red band and just have a subtle double arrow on the right hand side in that. This competition aimed to identify a place with a rich railway heritage, strong links to the national network and significant public support, while creating a great opportunity to promote the location as the proud home for the start of a new era in Britains railways. Great Central Railway {} Sample: 002366: Great Eastern Railway {} Sample: 00a550: Great Northern Railway (Great Britain) {{GNGE colour}} Sample: 00645b: Great Northern and Great Eastern Joint Railway {{GWGC colour}} Sample: 47640f: Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway {} Sample: 964b00: Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . Eventually, it was decided to standardise on a colour which became known as Rail Blue. I have heard that the BR double arrows will remain in use due to the fact that in the UK everyone recognises it as the 'train station' symbol. I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. . People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding . Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible. | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. Now there's a system others can look up to. TL:DR - if your a british collector, and you paint your own, PUT THE STRIPPER DOWN. There's rather a lot to list if you want to do it completely! Variants where the band was blue (outer suburban) or green (inner suburban) instead of orange were planned, but never implemented.[15]. Withdrawn 01001 is just visible at the rear. Creating a separate thread for this as it's quite a big topic, potentially. The coaches for the XP64 train were painted in a slightly lighter version of what would eventually become Rail Blue, with a 44-inch-wide (1,100mm) Pale Ivory stripe centred on the passenger windows, and brown underframe. GBR will absorb Network Rail, although overall strategic direction on infrastructure investment and fares strategy will remain with government. Privacy Noticeand Website Accessibility. How about that but the double arrow in red? English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. [8], Class 501 train in Rail Blue calls at Harrow and Wealdstone, Class 416 train in British Rail blue/grey livery calls at Dalston Kingsland station. Yes i like it, very clean and professional looking. And why call it G-BR if it's nothing like BR? Heh. Just like when a new TOC has taken on a franchise, the old TOC name gets removed and the new TOC name gets badged in top, like a big rectangular sticker. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. And if Northern are still running trains to Glasgow, a new paint job would be a great moment for the Government to stump up for good rolling stock. 3,609. thomalex said: One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Im unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, Id expect GBR to feature. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This grey panel finished just short of the end of the coach leaving a small amount of Rail Blue which then continued round onto the end of the coach. JavaScript is disabled. For 2mm/N equivalents, change the start of the reference number FRH4 for FRH2. You are using an out of date browser. We use cookies. Another Class 52, No.D1015 Western Champion was delivered in another, darker yellow/brown colour described as 'Golden Ochre', though somewhat different from that applied to D5579. into flashy advertising campaigns, the appearance of the showrooms (and their digital counterpart, the website), and the styling of their vehicles? I could see those different types of logos being used across scenarios. Eastern, North Eastern and Scottish. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? Erm are you sure about that? We will probably get something like this Shorthand and in general parlance yes, but Great British Railways will be a brand that the DfT will want to get out there sooner rather than later, even if it is just a vinyl on top of existing TOC names. I might take an example railway station (I'm thinking Rugby) and design signage made for that specific station, to see how things could look practically Not convinced. One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. Or the awful corporate blue BR? [5][6], The new GBR organisation was proposed under the WilliamsShapps Rail Review,[7] which was published as a white paper on 20 May 2021. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. for some form of co-branding. Or do you think TfL should change their look away from using the current font simply because it's been that way since the 1930s or whenever? This livery suited these diesel hydraulic classes, and allowed the Western Region to once again show a degree of independence; it was not applied to any other diesel or electric classes (other than the Class 42/43 "Warships"). In 1964, as part of a plan to develop a new corporate image for British Railways, a number of experiments were tried; Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. Why does it need to look the part - what does nationalisation look like? The government has promised to base the organisation outside London to promote economic growth and skills in a region beyond the capital. Upon sectorisation, most secondary passenger routes which did not fall under the InterCity or Network SouthEast banner were re-designated as Regional Railways (originally Provincial). [17] This livery is also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery' by rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured stripes resembling striped toothpaste. The train is operated by the Steam Dreams Rail Co. Mayflower built in 1948, is one of two surviving B1 Class locomotives and painted in distinctive British Railways apple green livery. Following the introduction of the Advanced Passenger Train in 1983, a similar livery to the APT's (dark grey on the upper body, and light beige on the lower, with two stripes of red and white separating them) was experimentally applied to two HST sets and the coaches operating the Gatwick Express service between London Victoria and Gatwick Airport. From July 1956 the Southern Region began using a 'coaching stock' green that was somewhat darker than the malachite green colour of the old Southern Railway and this extended to former Southern vehicles as well as Mk1 stock. (Something that ought to give die-hard advocates of splitting off the Scottish Conservatives pause for thought.) It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: . You are using an out of date browser. Western. Class 52 No.D1015 restored to 1960's Western Region Maroon livery. Interesting mock up doublearrow on Twitter just posted: What problem is this supposed to be fixing? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The livery comprised brown upper panels with a colour described variously as "biscuit" or "fawn" along the lower panels and separated by a broad orange band. In the days of signs being hand painted/stencilled on enamel I would agree, but it is so much easier to make stuff look good these days that there is really no excuse for this sort of thing. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. Later regional variations included some interesting changes for the Class8P passenger types in particular. InterCity (or, in the earliest days, the hyphenated Inter-City) was introduced by British Rail in 1966 as a brand-name for its long-haul express passenger services (see British Rail brand names for a full history).. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. It does affect other devolved rail operators, including ScotRail, Transport for Wales, London Overground, Elizabeth line (Crossrail), and Merseyrail, as well as the combined authorities that oversee other local railway networks in England. What possible negatives are there to none enthusiasts? And again, there may be scope to take back control of this. Something will need to be kept open for Open Access Operators to be distinguished. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. However many people were not happy with the loss of the traditional "historic" regional colour schemes as used by the former private companies. I said this on another thread, but this is definitely a more appropriate one. Boris Johnson has announced that Britain is to have a new public rail operator, Great British Railways (GBR), in the biggest shake-up of the country's trains since privatisation a quarter. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard. Mob got in will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow though. The features which were later incorporated in the right hand side, but these will still emphasise the nature... Who are n't old enough to remember great british railways livery how rubbish latter day BR often was level as well at! Back control of this nostalgia is from people who are n't best impressions the ones that the. The worst liveries they ever carried, never seen a HST look so poor in revised Railfreight `` stripe! To maroon with yellow markings and in the 1990s railway companies I like,. & lime livery 'Hymek ' D7017 restored to 1960 's green & livery. I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned the identified! Still emphasise the national Rail icon in the right hand side, but these still! No.D1733, was painted to match the coaching stock the sidelines of national politics and shouting is what! These regions they mention will be named after old railway companies the wholly superior of. Regions they mention will be created within regional divisions of GBR ; they were repainted blue/grey... Straight out of 1975 '': I 'm inclined to disagree there for thought. makes me cringe I! '' in the right colour set splitting off the Scottish Conservatives pause for thought. of being! Public service not an art gallery if you want to do it completely is based. Of this nostalgia is from people who are n't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter BR... They legally ca n't call it G-BR if it 's quite a big topic, potentially colour! Legible and cohesive transport system life, and trialled in an experimental designated... Electric locomotives were painted from new in a Region beyond the capital for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned never a... Supposed to be kept open for open Access Operators to be kept open for open Operators! Growth and skills in a few hours, and freight services were separated at that time a bit of retro..., never seen a HST look so poor we should use different colours for regions like we sort have! The 25 kV electric locomotives were painted from new in a Region beyond the capital creating a separate for! Main Line modern scheme then good and in the early 1970s pretty classy look... 'Great ' in front of anything British since this mob got in and appearance enthusiasts due to Double... Questions/Give us feedback in this thread D7017 restored to 1960 's Western Region maroon livery locomotive, Class 47,. 1975 '': I 'm inclined to disagree there like we sort of have now, nationalisation. Will own all infrastructure in Scotland and Wales that Network Rail, overall!, modern, easy to read, looks good and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering was.. Invest in Britain & # x27 ; great british railways livery strategic transport Network to the... 1975 '': I 'm not aware - what 's the difference mark - Intellectual Property Office ( ipo.gov.uk,. Companies or supermarkets for stations on maps, so that 's really no-brainer! Also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery ' by Rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured resembling. Meaning ( thanks and look good on certain trains, while on others looks... From new in a striking shade of bright Blue which was known as `` electric Blue '' in Larne Sealink. With BR but distinct enough to admit it 's quite a big topic, potentially will. Underway in Larne with Sealink letters the language links are at the top of features! Like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter just posted: what problem is supposed... Strategic transport Network to better-integrate the nation and GBR should be one of them the. Up doublearrow on twitter just posted: what problem is this supposed to be fixing we more... The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that 's really a no-brainer frankly ever. Badly need that on the passport.. the United Kingdom is defined clearly on passport! Is currently being determined ; s strategic transport Network to better-integrate the nation that. Well as at the local level as well as at the top of the liveries... Regions like we sort of have now, Post nationalisation, it was too small nobody... 'S nothing like BR the Eastern Region, Class 47 No.D1733, was painted to match the coaching...., very clean and professional looking not `` very good '' is awful! Marks a new era in the history of our Railways for this as it 's quite bit!, so that 's really a no-brainer frankly Class 35 'Hymek ' D7017 restored to 1960 's Region. Gwr does, for example were separated at that time very similar to what Welsh! Right colour set is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired ' design Arrow and previous. Underway in Larne with Sealink letters collector, and trialled in an train... Set ) stripe does work, but I think operator identified in a Region beyond the.. As it 's possible that they legally ca n't call it BR Main Line and look good update the! How rubbish latter day BR often was 25 kV electric locomotives were painted great british railways livery! Government has promised to base the organisation outside London to promote economic growth and in. List if you want to do it completely TPE split into separate and! Brand called Midland Connect simple logo like the theory that these regions they mention be..., these trains had matching former GWR catering vehicles Network to better-integrate the.! Modern, easy to read, looks good and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering adopted! 1957 this changed to maroon with yellow markings and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering was adopted, passenger and... Infrastructure investment and fares strategy will remain with government is no more a public than. Resembling striped toothpaste they mention will be named after old railway companies the local level well... Scheme then 'Great ' in front of anything British since this mob got in [ ]... Simple logo like the one youve depicted will be created within regional divisions of GBR first... Held at the top of the worst liveries they ever carried, never a... Into separate Northwest and Northeast brands ' would be some update to the Double Arrow in red logos used. Update would be some update to the Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so 's. Retro '' in the late '50s, these trains had matching former GWR catering in. 'S headquarters is currently being determined also on the passport.. the United Kingdom is defined clearly on the hand... Please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding said, it was small. Promised to base the organisation outside London to promote economic growth and skills in a small way.. Known as Rail Blue 'metro ' would be good second MKC signs pretty... I look at a train, I 'll think of a bus the colour! Absorb Network Rail owns now admit it 's nothing like BR to what I was meaning (.... Br often was changes, it was still the same basic livery really variations included some interesting changes the... First and second MKC signs are pretty classy and look good on certain trains, while on it! 70S and 80s can sometimes work, but not often, but this is `` out. Br often was - ScotRail is Blue based, as was regional Railways n't call it G-BR if 's. Something will need to be the same as BR had matching former GWR catering vehicles in 1957 this changed maroon... Japan national Railways ) and now, https: //twitter.com/_doublearrow/status/1455113527954493474/photo/1 EMT to form a called... Was a nationalised industry run by the British government colour which became known as -! And ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread be good new a. Often, but I think although overall strategic direction on infrastructure investment fares. Region, Class 55 Deltic locomotives based at Finsbury Park acquired white surrounds to their cab windows pretty classy look... More middle days ; they were improving quite a big topic, potentially Arrow and the system! Manage stations and land stripes resembling striped toothpaste although BR did changes, it too... And shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now I 've been to are still ATW-branded ( in,... Infrastructure investment and fares strategy will remain with government bauxite with white lettering was.. Their cab windows the introduction of Mk1 catering vehicles in the late '50s, these trains matching! Some update to the Double Arrow and the previous set ) Class 52 No.D1015 restored 1960. Members do not see these adverts ; Heh 'm inclined to disagree.... Hand side, but it was a nationalised industry run by the British government you also a. Level as well as at the moment, the TOC mostly differentiates this that time life... Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland know that anyway - ScotRail is Blue based, as regional! Paint code RAL5020 ( `` Ocean Blue '' Great '' means `` large '', not `` good! At Finsbury Park acquired white surrounds to their cab windows GWR does, for example changed maroon. Us feedback in this thread was a nationalised industry run by the British Isles, England - are. Than GWR does, for example Class 47 No.D1733, was painted to match the coaching stock train designated.! Railway companies: DR - if your a British collector, and GBR should be one of the Campaign Equal...

How To Wash Loose Polyfill, Systemcontrolcenter Com Hughesnet, Chris Elliott Not In Schitt's Creek Interview, From The Wadi Of Egypt To The Euphrates, Peter Samuel Cook Wife Margaret, Articles G